- How does creation point to the resurrection?
- Earth’s rotation.
- Earth’s tilt on axis.
- Seeds to flowers/fruit.
- Caterpillars.
- Phases of the moon, mercury, venus
- How does baptism point to the resurrection?
- Pictures burial and resurrection
- To what 3 aspects of resurrection does baptism point?
- Jesus
- our salvation
- our physical resurrection
- How do you know that the stories about Jesus weren’t borrowed from other pagan religions?
- not as similar as claimed,
- borrowing was the other way,
- early Christian manuscripts and history and evidence
- Who was Horus?
- Egyptian god of war and sky god
- What are some of the claims about Horus that rattle some Christians? (List 3)
- Birth like Jesus (cave, star, angel, shepherds),
- baptism like Jesus (age 30, in river, baptizer beheaded),
- 12 disciples,
- raised dead,
- cast out demons,
- walked on water,
- called Iusa & Holy Child,
- sermon on mount,
- transfigured,
- crucified between 2 thieves,
- buried 3 days, resurrected.
- Called the way, the truth, the light, Messiah, Lamb of God, etc.
- Would reign 1000 years
- What are the answers to those claims?
- (born in a swamp… no cave, no star, no angel, no shepherds)
- (not baptized, no baptizer)
- (4, or 16, followers)
- (none of those miracles)
- (no such word as Iusa, no one called Holy Child,
- no sermon on mount,
- not transfigured,
- no death,
- no resurrection,
- merged with Ra the sun god, “died” each evening “back to life” each morning.
- None of those titles.
- No mention of 1000 year reign
- Who was Mithras?
- Indo-Iranian (Persian) god of light, adopted by Greek and Rome
- What are some of the claims about Mithras that rattle some Christians? (List 3)
- born in cave
- Born of virgin
- Born on Dec 25,
- Shepherds present at birth
- great teacher,
- 12 disciples,
- sacrificed self for world peace,
- buried and rose 3 days later
- What are the answers to those claims?
- (born out of solid rock-left hole.
- No virgin.
- Dec 25 not Biblical,
- shepherds before people– decided AFTER Jesus, not a teacher,
- appeared in murals with 12 signs of zodiac–AFTER Jesus.
- Killed a threatening bull.
- Nothing about his death (much less resurrection)
- BEGAN observing resurrection AFTER Jesus (Tertullian: they borrowed from Christianity)
- How can we know that Christians didn’t borrow their ideas about Jesus from followers of Mithras?
- Most claimed similarities are not accurate. Actual similarities are not found in Mithraism until AFTER the resurrection of Jesus, so borrowing was the other way around.
- What’s wrong with just knowing in my heart that Jesus is real? Why do I need evidence?
- You may not need evidence to KNOW. But we usually need evidence to SHOW. Otherwise, what we say is similar to what Mormons, Muslims, etc. say
- What are two kinds of people that can be helped by the evidence that God has left us for His existence and for the trustworthiness of His Word?
- Open minded skeptics;
- Christians struggling with doubts